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Gay Berlin Woman Shares Her Thoughts On Supreme Court Debate

Jenna Curren doesn't like politics but is following the high court's case on same-sex marriage closely because it affects her future.

 

When a gay Berlin woman saw red equality signs in support of gay marriage and civil equality posted on many Facebook profiles Tuesday — the same day U.S. Supreme Court justices listened to arguments defending same-sex marriage — she said she was blown away.

"I thought it was awesome," Jenna Curren, 27, said. "I don't bring my phone into work so I didn't see it until later in the day but I changed my profile picture to that right away. People will still oppose it but polls show that more and more people are in favor of it. Look at the divorce rate between a man and a woman, it's terrible. Two men or two women who get married usually stay together for a long time because they had to wait and they had to fight to stay together."

The Supreme Court is reviewing whether to let stand a California ban on same-sex marriage.
 
The case on the delicate and divisive issue is eagerly anticipated. Recent polls show growing support among Americans for gay marriage, but only nine states recognize it, while 30 states have constitutional amendments prohibiting it. A CNN poll says 56 percent of the public says the federal government should  legally recognize same-sex marriages, with 43 percent disagreeing.

"I'm watching what is going on with the Supreme Court and I'm not," said Curren. "I hate politics so I'm not too keen on watching and waiting but this is very important because it very much affects my life."

Tuesday was the first of two days of arguments before the court. On Wednesday, the court will consider the related question of whether the 1996 federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which denies federal benefits to married same-sex couples, should be struck down. Rulings in both cases are not expected until June.

Curren said her gay friends talk about same-sex marriage and even more so if  something major happens or somebody in the public eye makes a controversial statement or quote.

"We talk about it all the time especially if one of our friends get engaged," she said. "We wonder what they will do for their wedding and what we will do when it is our time to get married. When someone makes a ridiculous sexist statement we also talk about it a lot."

Curren has had two serious relationships of over two years and has been in a relationship with another woman since October of 2012.

"I want a normal wedding, well I guess it's not normal but I want the same kind of wedding that all my straight friends get to have. I want to have a ceremony and a reception and two wedding dresses and bridesmaids. The whole deal."

Curren has had the benefit of having a supportive family.

"I had my first girlfriend when I was 16 and then I dated boys on and off until I came out when I was 21," Curren said. "My family had no problem with it. They told me when I told them that they knew it all along and wondered why I waited so long to tell them.

"It is not who I am. It contributes to my personality but that's it. I don't go up to people and say I'm Jenna Curren and I'm gay. Just like my straight friends don't introduce themselves as straight. People have gotten a lot better about the subject but we still have a long way to go."

"I have to say I'm lucky because I have a supportive family and I have the same group of friends I've had since I was in high school. They could care less about who I love," Curren continued. "I wish people would just stop putting labels on people and let them love who they love."

gwen winkler March 30, 2013 at 08:26 AM
Everyone has the right to their beliefs. I may not agree with Mr Evans but he has the right to believe and live where he wants. I am a 70 year old gay woman and am happy God loves me no matter what, as he does all his children. GW
Suzanne Helm March 30, 2013 at 02:29 PM
Dave Evans has 3 kids what if one of them turned to him to say, "dad, I'm gay do you still loove and accept me?" if the answer is no.....shame on HIM!
Suzanne Helm March 30, 2013 at 02:38 PM
If religion dictates how I live my life and love my children and judge other human beings who deserve equal rights and love and connection in this short, hard, cold life existence, I say that religion is not worth my time and effort, but the people I love and live for are. I don't have to relate to a particular religion to know what is right and wrong....all we have to know collectively as a inhabitant of Earth is the GOLDEN RULE.....and to treat people how we want to be treated.....I guess Dave Evans wants to be shunned and pre-judged and isolated as he will get back what he puts out to others. I have very good friends and family who are gay and I love them just with NO FEAR and NO LIMITATIONS and NO JUDGMENTS attached to who they are or what they do. Fear is a powerful emotion that makes men rally against the unknown and fight blindly to desperately hold onto the familiar vs embracing change positive or negative because change means growth and growth means evolution and newness and newness to the lesser evolved is SCARY! Dave I truly feel badly for you....evolve with us Dave....I promise, it's not that bad.
Suzanne Helm March 30, 2013 at 02:52 PM
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. God condemned a lot but his son, if you believe, sacrificed for ALL....he was a loving PACIFIST. JESUS was there for the saint and the SINNER and said, Let those without sin cast the 1st stone..... THUNK....collectively all around the world that is the sound of EVERYONE dropping their stones.
Dave Evans March 31, 2013 at 01:09 PM
For those concerned about rights, although I may not fully agree or understand all laws, I believe in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law. So to that end I appreciate the candid expressions and the dialogue. If you see, read, or hear about me doing something that you disagree with please let me know. My links were ones that took a different position depending on how you read them. I read the link in support of the federal defense of marriage law as one that is intended to strengthen marriages where in our country we are falling behind many other nations who have lower divorce rates. As I mentioned there are contradictory laws where there are such and within the boundaries of our laws we need work to together to improve them and to address concerns. My link on Mormons and Gays was intended to share the love and concern my church has for those with same gender attraction. Just as I read the link shared with me about men on the moon I would hope you would look at my links also. Suzanne to answer your question, I would love each of my children the same.
Joe S April 01, 2013 at 12:02 AM
I hope the two woman get married legally in CT if they choose to !!!!
Ron Lamontagne April 01, 2013 at 12:26 AM
"The attraction itself is not a sin, but acting on it is." " Individuals do not choose to have such attractions, they do choose how to respond to them." So Mr. Evans, what your Church is saying is it's OK to be attracted to whatever sex you are naturally attracted to, but you are not allowed to live a happy life because if you do act out on your natural feelings you are a sinner. That is really supportive....Kudos to you, Joseph Smith and Brigham Young for being such an understanding group of guys!
Ed Froem April 01, 2013 at 12:18 PM
"Kudos to you, Joseph Smith and Brigham Young for being such an understanding group of guys!" I haven't really weighed in on this issue Ron, and I am not a Mormon, but your comment shows what seems to be a common misunderstanding of the "if it feels good do it" generation. Religions, and religious leaders should not alter the teachings of their religion to fit the desires of the present generation. If a person or group of people believe their god, their religion says doing something is wrong, you can't demand they change their views to fit your needs. Unless you believe man dictates to god, not the other way around. You can demand tolerance, but not acceptance and those are two very different concepts. As an American and a Christian I should tolerate the gay lifestyle. I cannot be forced to accept it or teach my children that it is acceptable.
Joe S April 01, 2013 at 12:46 PM
@Ed. I hope your children are straight. Otherwise you will have a hard time accepting them. You may have a Gay grandchild someday! I hope you can accept them!
Ron Lamontagne April 01, 2013 at 12:57 PM
Without equality, tolerance for gays is just a myth.
Ed Froem April 01, 2013 at 01:12 PM
I'm sure I will be able to show them more tolerance then you are showing for me.
Suzanne Helm April 01, 2013 at 01:16 PM
well said Ron....let's all just learn to treat each other with equality....that is what everyone truly wants anyway. No one is any better or worse than another human being...we all have strengths and weaknesses because we are ALL HUMAN....so let's just treat each other as such and move on. Aren't there bigger fish to fry than who is marrying whom? Let it go. Can't we all just get along? Portia and Ellen have been married for 4 years now and their union did nothing to ripple the waters in my pond. Let's tackle the economy, or global warming, or hunger in America and move on to true problems that really need fixing....homosexuals, their connections and their choices DO NOT need fixing.
Ed Froem April 01, 2013 at 01:17 PM
Ron, I did mention on a different blog, that personally I feel government should get out of the business of defining marriage. For many faiths marriage is a sacrament and as such should be left to houses of worship. If its only about equality, let government issue only civil union licenses or whatever you want to call them. It should be a fairly simple change in statutory language and law to treat all civil unions the same as marriage for purposes of benefits legal rights etc. Considering all the anger directed at those opposed to gay marriage though I don't think this alternative will be accepted as the true goal does not seem to be equality for gay marriage.
Ron Lamontagne April 01, 2013 at 01:48 PM
I understand that marriage is a sacrament and have attended many beautiful weddings, but what makes a marriage legal is based on government laws not God's law. I don't see anyone running to church to be married without a marriage license. In many states there are common law marriage rules which force people to be married even of the don't want to be.
Ed Froem April 01, 2013 at 02:28 PM
Ron, your response seems to support my premiss your stand is not for marriage equality, otherwise civil unions for ALL, gay or otherwise would suffice.
Ron Lamontagne April 01, 2013 at 02:45 PM
as long as it is EQUAL I am for it!
Ed Froem April 01, 2013 at 02:47 PM
Well, then we have consensus. Lets all call our representatives and tell the government shall not define marriage.
Ron Lamontagne April 01, 2013 at 05:36 PM
We both know that marriage is here to stay. So lets just call our representatives and tell them to make it equal for all by law and let the churches decide if they want to continue to discriminate.
Ed Froem April 01, 2013 at 06:18 PM
Ron, not quite the same thing. When the government gets to define what marriage is, and enforce it, then the church's will no longer be able to in your words "decide if they want to continue to discriminate." If the issue is equality vs what constitutes a marriage, remove the term marriage from the equation and there can be no more argument against it, not at least from the groups concerned with the definition of marriage. But as I and others suspect, its not really about inheritance or medical benefits or who is allowed in the hospital room.
Ron Lamontagne April 01, 2013 at 07:46 PM
Ed, What is it you and others suspect? I am very curios to hear the conspiracy?
Joe S April 01, 2013 at 08:56 PM
There should not be another word for "MARRIAGE". It should be the same for all unions.
Ed Froem April 02, 2013 at 01:08 PM
Well Ron, maybe you can answer your own question. Why is equality through civil unions not acceptable. Why is it not ok for one side to define marriage as only between a man and a woman, but it is ok for the other side to define marriage the way they want to?
Ron Lamontagne April 02, 2013 at 02:08 PM
Between 2 people without the gender clause. So no I can't answer my question to you about the gay marriage conspiracy that you and others suspect. You can ride the bus, but can't sit there. You can eat in this restaurant, but can't enter through this door. You can have a drink of water but, not from this fountain. You can love who you want, but can not be married and recognized as an equal. Let go of your fear Ed, you will not be forced to marry another man. You probably won't even be invited to a gay wedding.
Joe S April 02, 2013 at 02:36 PM
That was in response to Mormon Dave!
Joe S April 02, 2013 at 02:38 PM
Yes Ron, and Ed says he can tolerate not accept gays, even if they were his children or grandchildren. Also......did anyone notice there is no "reply" option on Ed'd comments but there is on everyone elses? WIMP!
Ed Froem April 02, 2013 at 02:41 PM
Well at least you admit that you wont settle for the equality that would be guarenteed if the government got ot of the business of defining marriage. Ron, we have your word then, that no house of worship of any kind will be sued for refusing to allow a gay couple to be married in the church? Or use the church hall for their reception? That no member of the clergy will be sued or picketed? But we don't have your promise, you already refer to church's as being discriminatory, and if you have your way you will have legal recourse eventually. Shall we legalize polygamy at the same time? How about underage marriage, wha should we descriminate against other cultural and religiously held beliefs? Btw, why the hatred evidenced in your ad hominem attacks? I haven't attacked you for your beliefs.
Ron Lamontagne April 02, 2013 at 03:22 PM
Ed, There is no hate.....we don't agree but I do not hate you. With that I will be ending my participation in this thread. I will walk away with the same view that I came into it with and you with yours.
Joe S April 02, 2013 at 07:37 PM
Totally off the wall. Gay marriage is not the same as polygamy. You yourself stated you would not accept a gay relative, ontly tolerate them. I am with Ron. You can stick to your beliefs. What started this thread was just the fact that these two woman want to be married and in fact Ed, THEY CAN LEGALLY BE MARREIED IN CT!!!!!!End of discussion for me.
Joe S April 02, 2013 at 07:40 PM
Some religions are performing same sex marriages, Lifelong. Marriage will be marriage. Man woman, woman woman, and man man. Live with it. Accept it.
Ed Froem April 02, 2013 at 09:27 PM
Joe, why stop there, how about 1 man 3 women, or one women 5 men?

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